Dallas Cowboys Owner Jerry Jones Tells People To Cancel Comcast, Time Warner
Dallas Cowboys owner Jerry Jones respectfully requests that you cancel Time Warner Cable and/or Comcast for not letting you have the NFL network on regular basic cable.
TWC, Comcast and other cable companies have refused to carry the channel on basic cable because they say it costs too much and they don't want to raise rates for all of their subscribers to pay for a channel that only a few people want.
Comcast briefly carried the channel on its basic cable package, but sued to have it moved to a more "a la carte" sports tier and won. Neither they, nor Time Warner cable, seem too concerned about a backlash.
"We don't think any of our customers will disconnect just because Jerry Jones tells them to do so." said Time Warner spokesperson Maureen Huff.
Until Sunday Ticket isn't DirecTV only, the NFL, including Jerry Jones, should really just shut the hell up.
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Of course he does, he wants a stipend from every one of the Comcast and Time Warner customers whether or not they partake of the NFL.
I normally do not applaud cable companies, but in this case, Time Warner and Comcast have mine for standing up to the NFL. Customers should not have to pay for channels unless they want them. And just because it's added to basic cable doesn't mean the customer isn't paying for it. One way or another, the customer will pay.
As someone who does eat, sleep, and breathe football (and also happens to think Jerry and anyone else involved in the Cowboys franchise is a jackass), I still say that the NFL can go to hell with these demands. Rather than incur the exhorbitant price for the NFL network to be carried in basic cable (and as I have said before, ESPN is $10 a month, no exaggeration, so I can only imagine how much NFLN is), if I really want to see the game, I'll go to a bar and spend that money on drinks and food.
And am I the only one who thinks this channel carrying regular season games is ridiculous in the first place? With so much of our local governments paying part of the football fees (for things like stadiums), why didn't anyone step in and tell them to go eff themselves??
@suckonthat: I did. Still lost the vote. Got a 0.25% sales tax increase in Arlington to pay for his damn stadium.
That little margin is actually the difference between me shopping at a store locally or the same store four miles away outside Arlington city limits.
ESPN is NOT $10/month. It's the priciest channel, certainly, but it's about $2.25-3/month/sub, depending on the operator. If your operator is paying $10/month/sub, then ESPN's affiliate fee negotiator has pictures of your operator's CEO in flagrante with a goat.
How is forcing people to pay an extra couple of dollars for the NFL network any different than forcing them to pay an extra couple of dollars for the likes of LMN, Lifetime, Oxygen, or any other number of channels that are foisted upon us already? As it is now, the basic cable package caters to all types of special interest groups, why, as a sports fan should my special interest group be relegated to a higher priced package when I'm helping to subsidize many others? I'm not saying the NFL is in the right, but there is a hell of a double standard floating around right now. Every person that is claiming "I wont miss it" should think about what niche channels they go home to watch, and how many people have no interest in those channels, but get stuck paying for them anyways.
I applaud Comcast for standing up the the NFL network as well. They are doing the same thing for the Big 10 network as well, saying that they don't want to make everyone pay for a channel that few people want. Comcast wants to put the big 10 network on the sports tier too. All I know is that my cable bill is already big enough without adding all these specialized sports channels I don't care about.
If the NFL decides to ONLY televise games on the NFL network (or Sunday Ticket), then I say we boycot the NFL instead of our cable carrier.
Keeping in mind that the NFL has created this big monster of a monopoly and is, in effect, choosing the telecommunications options for its fans (not a good thing obviously)...
I had a real problem with Comcast's decision to make those of us who were enjoying the NFL Network as part of our basic programming package all-of-a-sudden pay extra for something that we were enjoying at the normal rates. To me, it felt like a bait and switch, and is one of the reasons why I changed to DirecTV.
I understand their position, but it would be like paying for a basic phone line where you could call any area code that is "local," and then being told a year later that you couldn't call certain local area codes unless you wanted to pay $5 more a month.
@jesdynf: I hope you tell those stores exactly why they lost your business -- because they take your money and give it to these assholes who can afford their own damn stadium.
@suckonthat: According to this post on ESPN.com (paragraph 8), ESPN charges $30-$35 per YEAR for their suite of channels. NFLN is looking to charge $7-$9 per annum. For comparison NBATV charges ~$4/year and CNN ~$5/year.
I agree that everyone in the NFL should keep their mouths shut until they open up Sunday Ticket to all providers.
@JustAGuy2:
I was going to point the same thing out. I doubt there is an operator in the United States that pays more then $3/sub for ESPN.
@JustAGuy2, @johnperkins21: My numbers may be for a smaller market, but they still hold. I go to a moderately sized university that does not offer ESPN within its cable for that reason. They did a poll asking if students were willing to pay $10 a month for just ESPN, ESPN2, and a third ESPN station(?) and got an overwhelming helllll-no response. Oh and I am very confident that it isn't the university trying to gouge the students, seeing as how it was a student board to control this.
@suckonthat: Most local governments don't pay for football stadiums unless they are through a sports authority and then the team doesn't own the stadium. This isn't baseball. For example, Robert Kraft built the Patriot's stadium out of his own pocket as did Jack Kent Cook did with the Redskin's stadium.
@jesdynf: If Arlington is paying Jerry Jones for a football stadium for him to own, then all I can say is dumb Texans. Some how I doubt that is the actual situation.
@mconfoy:
The new stadium will cost over $1 billion; Arlington pays $325 million, the NFL pays $120 and the rest is financed by Jerry.
Oh yeah, jesdynf, I'm sorry you live in Arlington ;)
There are so many other reasons to hate Comcast and the cable companies, heck, this decision isn't one of them. However, in the spirit of giving, I'll offer plenty of reasons:
1) High cost (bundling useless channels together)
2) Lots of fees, but no corresponding value
3) Bad customer service
4) Unreliable internet service
5) Did I mention expensive?
this is one of those situations where people get to see very publicly the kind of negotiations that go on for carriage of channels on tv, and its a good example of when time warner and comcast are not backing down, and sticking to their guns with the interest of their customers in mind.
the entire reason the nfl doesn't want the channel a la carte is because they are greedy, if it is offered as a $5 a month add-on, most people will cancel after the season is over, but the nfl wants all cable subscriber's hard earned monies in their pockets all year long, its shameful, and jerry jones is a schmuck for opening his mouth.
one more reason for me to hate the cowboys (buffalo bills fan), blow me jerry
@mconfoy: The only reason why Kraft paid out of his pocket is because the Massachusetts Legislators told him "No, we will not cough-up 380,000,000 bucks for your football team".
Kraft then threatened to take the Patriots and move to Hartford Connectitcut if the state did not cave-in
Guess what ? The people of Massachusetts and the State Government called his bluff.
Oh yeah, remember when NESN was a pay-premium channel like the NFL is doing now? Not anymore.
To me, professional sports teams can all go to hell.
This is complete bull. People who really want the NFL network are more than willing to pony up the extra $5/month for the extra package. Why should everyone have to pay for the channel?
I gladly pay $7 for the sports package, and I don't think that my sisters, who don't watch sports, should be forced to subsidize my enjoyment.
When are we going to get cable a la carte, the way it should be?
@PaulMorel: Easy answer: When it becomes more profitable for cable cos to charge it a la carte than package. Right now they make a great deal on selling you a bunch of channels you probably don't want (Home Shopping anyone?)
If we get the NFL Network forced on our basic tier, due to the rabid, widespread desire for what, 6 games and a playoff game late in the season, does that mean you'll reward this rabid fandom with the ability to get Sunday Ticket through our cable subscribers?
No? Oh, then fuck you Jerry.
(This coming from a person who gladly upgraded to the sports tier just to get the NFL network and thinks that it's ridiculous that they're trying to put it on the basic tier)
@b-real: Very interesting, if not for the cost overruns. Poor planning by someone because building something like that sure does look to be in the $1 billion range.
@Front_Towards_Enemy: In correct, that was for the land rights and infrastructure. There was no way a private individual could pull that off in Boston without the city and state's intervention. Look at no new Fenway, instead they still play in that toilet. As far as infrastructure improvements, Kraft asked no more than any other business asks and typically gets.
That isn't a good reason to cancel Comcast and Time Warner.
I do think that Jerry needs a freaking clue. That, and his head pulled out of his butt. I do not want to pay for anything that I do not want. And I do not want. Quite frankly, as far as I'm concerned, that's extortion. Not just out of the cable companies but me and the customers as well.
The best picture for this article would have been the NFL logo with a LOLCat "DO NOT WANT!" across the thing.
@suckonthat:
If this is a small private cable system (couple thousand subs), then I suppose that's theoretically possible, but I would be that the $10/month includes some allocation toward the capital infrstructure to get ESPN (i.e. another dish may be needed, and an encoder).


















Like people really need another reason to cancel Comcast.