Not a moment too soon. That thing was as ugly as a hatfull of warts.

@zibby:

The Dodge Magnum wasn't winning any beauty contests either.

And the only "deal" you get on a Chrysler is from the guy who tells you never to purchase one. There's a reason you don't see any old Chryslers on the road.

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it is just the PT Cruiser convertible being discontinued, not the hardtops.

@specialed5000: Unfortunate, if that's the case. PT Cruisers are just Neons with a different body. Garbage and ugly taboot.

I once got a Dodge Magnum Hemi as a rental a couple years ago in Albuquerque, NM. Didn't ask for it, but at midnight it was the only thing left in the lot so I took it.

It was fugly, but that car could move. Easily broke 100 mph on that nice stretch of road between Santa Fe and Albuquerque, and had room to open up for more.

Oh well; see ya, hardly knew ye.

@specialed5000: "Meantime, Chrysler executives have also now decided to kill the entire PT Cruiser line after the 2009 model year..."

With the exception of the PT Cruiser, all of those shared platforms with Mercedes vehicles. Could this be the reason for the drop?

I work next door to a dodge dealership, and the owner drives up in many a car, none of which are dodge, chrysler, jeep and so on.

I will never ever buy another Dodge ever again. We bought a Durango because my hubby really wanted it. Since he suffered with about five years of mini van driving I gave in.

We later found out how many known issues Dodge had with these. Ball joints, transmission, tie rod ends, and a bunch more, all had known flaws that Dodge refused to recall.

@SwatLax:

Sorry, I had incorrect information from yet another misleading, poorly worded Consumerist post.

I just followed the link to read the whole article, and found that the article linked to was not the same one that was quoted (which was from over a month ago) and which had somewhat contradictory information. I would guess that the newer one is more accurate.

Also, the main point of the linked article was a possible plan to reduce the number of dealers, not discontinuing models.

Silly me, I expected the post to have relevant, correct information and the link to the original article to simply be available to provide additional detail, not to be there to correct information from the outdated article which was quoted and presented as being current.

I read elsewhere that it's only the PT Cruiser CONVERTIBLE that is being scrapped. The normal PT Cruiser is too big of a seller to get rid of it :)

PT Cruisers are still ugly on a stick

I'm not a fan of the Mopar. What they did to Jeep is inexcusable (anyone seen the compass?) I'm shocked that the Aspen isn't on the list...

@specialed5000:

That may be the main point, but the more interesting info is the cars being discontinued. This is stated in the the last paragraph of the linked story ...

"Meantime, Chrysler executives have also now decided to kill the entire PT Cruiser line after the 2009 model year, according to a dealer who was told of the decision this past week. The move further expands the auto maker's push to eliminate slower-selling models. Chrysler, in announcing the expanded restructuring this month, said that it was dropping the PT Cruiser convertible, Chrysler Pacifica, Chrysler Crossfire and Dodge Magnum."

@b612markt:
Aspen is not on the list because the Aspen hybrid just launched and they need the regular version on hand to show how much better the hybrid is, etc....and in case someone decides they don't need the hybrid and just purchase a regular one.

I understood the Crossfire Pacifica and Cruser... but the Magnum? While ugly as sin it was meant to be that ugly, it was a mans wagon with a big fucking gas hog of a engine. It was also the base of what is now the Challenger and Charger.

I guess it was doing that badly? I know if it had been just slightly cheaper I would have bought one myself since I dont want a truck but could use the space of one.

So does that mean Dodge and Jeep will just be offering trucks at some point?

@radleyas: @radleyas:

We disagree on what is the more interesting piece of information in the WSJ story, and that is fine, I don't mind at all when people disagree with me.

I'm not trying to argue that the newer, linked article says that all PT Cruisers are being discontinued. By quoting that you are wasting time and effort trying to argue a settled point that I am not disputing.

My point is that when I read the original post, the conflicting information immediately jumped out at me. The quote in the post said convertibles, but the Consumerist commentary said all PT Cruisers.

Once again, the purpose of the link should be for reference and for those who want additional information. I shouldn't have to follow it to find out which piece of conflicting information in the post is correct.

@Hanke: "With the exception of the PT Cruiser, all of those shared platforms with Mercedes vehicles. "

I had a guy in the office that bought a small Mercedes-Benz a few years ago, and I always told him he really had bought a Mercedes Neon. It would always piss him off.

It can't be said enough: The PT Cruiser is a fugly, fugly car.

"eliminate all passenger vehicles from the Dodge and Jeep brands"

Uhhh...What's that leave, then? Isn't everything a "passenger vehicle", or are they going to move Dodge and Jeep over to making Big Rigs and Dump trucks?

Unless "passenger vehicle" is industry slang for cars - ie not trucks or SUVs. I'm a little confused here.

Really stupid move! All of these cars have a niche market. Especially the PT cruiser and the Crossfire. The crossfire is a very well engineered car. Big bob probably thinks that neons and caravans are the only things that they sell.

Yeah, I don't understand Dodge and Jeep not having passenger vehicles either.

Even if "passanger vehicle" is slang for cars, that would mean that Jeep already doesn't have any. All Jeeps fall into that SUV category.

No. This makes no sense. No sense at all.

So does this mean they're going to go out and round up all the mentioned cars and feed them to the crusher? That would make me so happy...

@ekthesy:

My Neon is the exception. 235k miles & still running strong.

@badgeman46: They don't sell Neons anymore. They've been replaced with the Caliber.

@xboxishuge: Trucks and SUVs are in a different government classification, so that's probably what they mean.

This is a really stupid strategy actually. With gas prices where they are and probably headed higher, putting all your bets on trucks and SUVs does not seem smart.

The PT Cruiser may not be the prettiest thing on the block, but it's darn comfy inside. Riding in one to lunch was actually the only tolerable part of my last visit to my grandpa's! Har har...

@TWinter: Unless you're deliberately trying to run the company into the ground...

I wonder how they could even update cars like the PT Cruiser and New Beetle. Is it possible to come out with new body styles for cars of such targeted designs or are these types of cars destined to be one generation only?

@Falconfire: I thought the Magnum was pretty. Actually, I thought it was the sexiest damn station-wagon that I'd ever seen in my life, and with a beast of an engine. I bought one for my mommy-mobile, and it fits the job perfectly. I don't commute, so am not so concerned about mileage. I am concerned about cargo space, and passenger comfort, and I like power. The Magnum is ideal for those.

It's just "Big Bob's" way of bringing his exciting ideas from Home Depot to Chrysler!

After all.....look how well he did there !

PT Cruisers are ugly cars. But I got one when I rented last year (not by choice, it was they had available) and it wasn't a bad car to drive.

i like my pacifica...that thing is a tank...steel and airbags

@Celeste: Agreed. If I were a soccer dad I'd have a Magnum in a heartbeat over the rollover tanks you see everywhere.

I will just go and whimper in the corner. I love my PT Cruiser. It's a small retro wagon, it holds a lot of stuff, and it is fun to drive. My biggest complaint is the MPG. Its on the low side for a smaller car.

I have 20 months before the Chapter 11 announcement. Then another 15 months before the Chapter 7 conversion. I called it first.

Robert "Big Bob" Nardelli, should rightly be called "Incompetent Idiot who nearly killed Home Depot single handedly" If they were still public I would advise shortly them all the way to the bottom.

I for one ,am NOT sorry to see these sack assed jokemobiles in the corporate graveyard.The PT was always a styling dead end; Once the "early adopter" assholes bid the price up above what the damn thing was worth and moved on to another fad toy,people saw the thing for what it is: a tarted up Dodge Neon with an antique drivetrain and Willys Americar knockoff bodywork.The stylling is virtually immune to updating or freshening. The Magnum is just a weird idea:Put a big ,honking engine in a station wagon.For what ? So these soccer moms can linger over another latte and then get junior to soccer practice at 110mph? This is a three bong hit idea that made it to production and I am glad it's not going to assault my eyes much longer.The Crossfire (AKA "Mid Life Crisismobile")appeals to the kind of people that wish it came with opera windows and a half vinyl roof. I have saved the worst for last : What those German Deutschbags have done to the Jeep brand and image makes me wish we had dropped an a-bomb on Stuttgart. Last year. Sweet Jesus,have you seen that new ad with the squirrel singing along with the birds and the wolf as the guy drives along in his Jeep ? If that is what they think that the brand means to Americans,then they have been huffing glue at Mopar. Why not just change the name to,say,Pansymobile? Memo to soccer moms and others that drive a Compass - You are not driving a real Jeep.You are driving a Dodge Caliber with a different trim.You got ripped off. Good riddance to all of these damn cars...

Chrysler Crossfire was just an old sl-55 with a hideous body slapped on it thats rear looked like a dog parking its breakfast.

The "PT Looser" is one of those cars that immediately betrays the age of its owner. April Margera owned one. Enough said.

I loved the PT Cruiser. There is no back seat better for getting laid in.

There are rows and rows of PT cruisers at the Dollar Rental Car lot in Vegas.

I got assigned to an 07 convertible last week, and the car was absolutely terrible on fuel, had a large blindspot, but wasn't too bad to drive.

The car got 19 miles per gallon out of a 4 cylinder this is just poor.

I got a magnum as a rental car a few months back. The damn thing felt like I was driving a &*@#&* stretch-limo. The back window was so far away and small that it was basically useless. This is scary as hell when driving through a crowded place like the LA Area. I have plenty of NYC driving experience, but that's in a car with a god-damned rear window (Toyota Camry). I learned to drive in my parent's station wagon (Taurus), but the Magnum is just ridiculous!

I love my 2003 PT Cruiser. Absolutely no problems.

I drove my 2001 PT for seven years and 140,000 miles. I bought her for her looks, and kept her for her reliability. Sadly, both crooked dealer repair departments who worked on her just got too greedy and too anxious to sell me a new car. My wife's 2005 convertible is also a great car. She loves it. My new Honda... we take turns driving it!

@MyCokesBiggerThanYours: The wife has a 03 PT as well. Is your really tough to turn? The turning radius on it sucks! Plus since it has a turbo and she is a lead foot the milage is pretty bad. Yeah it is not bad to drive but it feels like my sisters 05 neon.

Watch; Chrysler will start doing away with more and more models and will start introducing ones made in China. DamlierChrysler had been talking about doing this even before the Cerebus takeover. Cerebus will sell off half of it to China and will end up as the network of dealers in the US that will be selling vehicles made in China.

The PT Cruiser shares no parts with the Neon.
The Neon was simply the developmental chassis for the PT Cruiser.
Yeah, the blindspot is big, but not if you know how to use your mirrors.

@thirdgen: The magnum does have some bad sight lines. But it is the absolute best roadtrip vehicle ever. Rented and drove one from WashDC to NYC one weekend. Once I learned how to park it, I was completely thrilled.