AT&T: If The Stylus On Your Phone Breaks, Your Warranty Is Void

Reader Rob has an AT&T 8525.

It came with two cheap plastic styluses, one of which broke while still in the phone.

Now Rob can’t get the stylus out of the phone. Other than that small inconvenience, the phone is fine.

He called AT&T for help and they told him his warranty was void, then laughed at him.

Rob writes:

I’ve got an AT&T 8525, and I’ve had it since about mid-June. It was a refurbished model, and the stylus end (the end that screws in) was a little wobbly, but very functional still. We’ve got a little problem with it now, though. That tip on the stylus (a cheap, $3 part) has broken off. The phone is fine, but the stylus is broken. That in itself isn’t a big deal, what sucks is that the stylus is still in the phone, and I have no way of retrieving it without opening the phone up and voiding the warranty. So, what am I to do?

I call AT&T to tell them the situation… and I’m promptly informed that the warranty on my phone is now void because of physical damage. What?! A $3 part that’s shipped with the phone breaks, and now the phone’s warranty is void. That’s what I’m to understand. I try, repeatedly, to tell the Agent I’m speaking with that the phone itself is undamaged, that it’s just the stylus, and I’m only calling them so I don’t have to open the phone and void my own warranty. I am informed, over and over again, that it doesn’t matter. I’ve abused the device, it is now out of warranty. I ask for the call to be escalated, and I’m sent to their Escalation Center.

I speak with Amy Hodges from Escalations. She informs me of the same situation as the previous person does, since before I speak to her the previous tech gives her their version of what’s wrong with my phone. I try, in vain, to explain that I just want my stylus out of my phone. I explain that I don’t need a new phone, that I just want the one I have to be 100% usable again, and all she’ll tell me is that I can have it exchanged if I pay for a new phone. I ask her, “So, you’re telling me that since the cheap, defective stylus you shipped me broke, my phone’s out of warranty forever and I will have to buy a new one if I ever want it fixed.” She says, while laughing, “Yes, that’s what I’m telling you, your phone is no longer under warranty.” I ask for her supervisor.

I speak to Josh Rosen, Supervisor for Advanced Data Devices. I try to start all over with him, figuring maybe something had just gotten lost in all the story telling from tech to tech. I tell him, “Ok. When I received my phone, I received three things: a phone, a stylus, and a battery. The phone and the battery are fine. The stylus, which I actually have two of, has broken.” I ask if he’s with me so far, and he doesn’t reply. I ask again, and wait for him to say, “Huh?” I say, “Good to know you’re listening. Anyway, on the stylus there are two tips. A rubber pointer tip, and a hard plastic lip tip. The hard plastic tip allows you to pull the stylus out of the phone. It has broken off. The stylus is inside of the phone. I am calling you so that I don’t have to open the phone up myself and void the warranty.” His response? “I’m sorry, your phone’s out of warranty because of physical damage.” At this point, I’m pretty sure he didn’t listen to a word I said. I go back and forth with him for about ten minutes, asking what my options are and basically pleading my case. His response? I need to contact HTC, and ask a friend if they have any old AT&T phones I can use in the mean time. I ask him if he’s joking, because he’s laughing as he’s telling me to do this. I ask him if he, as a consumer, would be satisfied with that answer… instead of answering me, he gives me the ol’ “I do apologize for your frustration, but your warranty is void. Is there anything else I can help you with?”. I ask for his supervisor, and I’m told that he’s as high as it goes. I ask him if that’s true, he says, “Yes, it’s true.” I don’t believe him, so I ask again. He says, “Well, no, it’s just for today.” I tell him I want his supervisor’s name, and I want it now. He gives it to me, but won’t give me a number to contact him at. His name, by the way, is Thomas Jackson, Head Supervisor for Advance Data Devices. I am informed that if I want to talk to him, I will have to work through the chain again… he gives me the 1.800 number. I inform him that I’m not a satisfied customer, he thanks me for choosing Cingular Wireless (you’d think they’d have that trained out by now) and tells me to have a nice night.

So, that’s where I’m at. I’ll be calling HTC later on this afternoon (assuming they’re open) and try and get this figured out. Just figured I’d let you guys know that if you break the stylus of a PDA/smartphone from AT&T, your warranty is completely void.
Thanks!


Rob

Rob, it’s time for an EECB! Your warranty should not be voided over a broken stylus. We think that’s why they give you two of them. They break!

Comments

  1. Uriel says:

    @Buran: “Since I’m sick of this argument (and I do extend an apology to anyone who I misread… had too many run-ins with genuine “I won’t be bothered” types of late, so there you go… sigh) I’ll just suggest that you see what you can find out there on car enthusiasts who find that dealerships deny warranty claims for, say, a problem with a car’s oxygen sensor because the owner has installed aftermarket springs.”

    OK, you’re sick of the argument(whichever argument, or problem you refer to other than the stylus, we have yet to understand but…), fine and dandy, you don’t think that the phone’s warranty should be voided because the stylus is broken, so do the rest of us. NOW, what does this have to do with the Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act, can you please answer this? A self-proclaimed attorney cannot fathom what you mean. I mean, you know, I wouldn’t simply throw out the name of any old Bill or Act that sounded like it had some relevancy to a topic, then accuse like a hundred or so other people who called my bluff of not reading a fairly straight-forward article, and sound argumentative about it. You’re not doing that…are you…?

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  3. dalasv says:

    Man, this Buran thread is way more interesting than the original post. Buran, if you find yourself frequently getting frustrated with people because they don’t understand your unclear statements, please take the time to discern what your communication problems are. If you do that (as opposed to thinking of snarky and condescending comebacks) you will be doing yourself a favor, because people will understand you immediately and you won’t feel frustrated by having to constantly clarify your thoughts.

    Please consider following this advice instead of thinking of a way to insult me. I seriously think it will improve your life.

  4. GrumpyMD says:

    Is your iPhone warranty void if you break your finger then?

  5. MrEvil says:

    @Nero Diavolo: The Magnusson Moss Warranty act applies to ALL Consumer products, not just automobiles (however it is most commonly used in that context). However, I’m fairly certain a PDA stylus is considered an accessory and not an integral part of the PDA (based on the fact a stylus can be readily replaced if broken or worn out). I’d say the OP needs to call AT&T on their bullshit and inform them about the MMWA. I’d also suggest calling the FTC about it too.

  6. xredgambit says:

    @GrumpyMD:

    vote for best post on this article.

    besides all referances to dickety.

  7. Buran says:

    @hc5duke: I did try to explain several times with no joy … but I’m sorry anyway, okay?

  8. Buran says:

    @dalasv: I did try to clarify. Repeatedly… and then when I explained the most common application of the law, I *STILL* didn’t get through. I’m sorry if that wasn’t enough. Truly. What my life is like is not your concern, honestly, and doesn’t belong here. But if I can’t even cite the most common reason for the law at hand being invoked, giving plenty of search terms for people to learn about it, what else is there to do? I even explained how that paralleled to the problem at hand here and I was still accused of being unclear. I’m sorry, truly, if that wasn’t enough for everyone. I tried.

    I had a bad day. That’s all.

  9. Caroofikus says:

    When I’m told that there is nobody above the person I’m speaking to, I like to ask “so you mean that there’s nobody in your entire company over you, not even the president or CEO?” “No, that’s not–” “Good, then let me talk to them.”

  10. xl22k says:

    @GrumpyMD

    No, your iPhone warranty is only void if you break your finger andpart of it gets stuck inside your iPhone.