TigerDirect Unlawfully Restrains And Verbally Abuses Customer For Not Submitting To Receipt-Showing Demands
UPDATE: TigerDirect Apologizes For Unlawfully Detaining Customer For Refusing To Show Receipt
I was visiting a Tigerdirect (Large Electronic Retail Store) in Naperville, IL today (8/23/07)(8/22/07). All was going well until after I had paid for my merchandise and tried to leave.A security guard demanded that I show him my receipt, which I respectfully declined with a "No Thanks" and continued walking out the door. At that point the Guard physically placed himself between me and the door and said "I can't let you leave until you show me your receipt." I attempted to walk around him, explaining I didn't have to show him anything, and he continued to block my path and called several other employees to block my retreat.
I understand the "Shopkeeper's Privilege", but under no possible interpretation of the law would refusing a voluntary receipt check constitute grounds for reasonable suspicion of shoplifting. At this point, I warned them that I was being unlawfully restrained, and unless they immediately allowed me to leave, I would call the police and press criminal charges for unlawful restraint, and also file a civil suit for false imprisonment (fortunately, I knew my rights).
None of them budged, and the store manager began verbally abusing and slandering me...
He called me a thief, and said he would have me arrested for "attempted shoplifting". Both the manager and security guard said it was corporate policy to detain customers unless they submitted to a receipt check.What a story! Where was this store located? Do you have the name of the security guard and manager to share? As far as contacting the State's Attorney, I think simply an initial phone call to their office is fine. Finding a lawyer is as simple as calling your local bar association, describing in brief your case, and asking for a referral.At this point, I pull out my cell phone, call 911, and inform the operator I'm being illegally detained and not allowed to leave the store. The operator said an officer was on the way and would be there in a few minutes. In the meantime, the manager continued screaming at me, telling me I was banned from the store (fine by me, I've spent easily over $10,000 in the last few years at Tigerdirect and planned to take my business elsewhere if this was the kind of treatment I could expect) and so on.
Fortunately, an officer arrived within 5 minutes. The manager and security guard began to tell the officer I was trying to steal something. After they were done I calmly explained the situation to the officer. The officer agreed that they couldn't hold me unless they had seen me shoplifting, which they obviously had not. I then asked the officer to arrest the security guard for unlawful restraint, which she refused to do; she instead suggested I talk the the state's attorney if I wanted to press charges (which I plan to do). I got the security guard's name, and the officer's name and badge number. I then left, and was again verbally informed me I was banned from returning. As I was leaving, the security guard continued to taunt me, and dared me to press charges.
As soon as I got home (approximately 4 hours later, I had errands to run), I called the company the security guard was from (Securitas), explained the situation, and asked if their corporate policy was to forcibly detain customers who refuse to show their receipt. I was escalated three times, until a "supervisor" there said he didn't feel comfortable answering the question, but he would have his boss call me back shortly. I waited 2 hours, with no more response. I called back again, and after reaching the same supervisor asked why my call hadn't been returned. He informed me that they had my contact information, and if they had anything to say to me they would call. I demanded to speak to his boss, and was told that the boss was busy now, but would call me within an hour. Again, after 4 hours, no call.
Nowhere in any of this did anyone apologize to me or tell me they were mistaken. I probably would have been satisfied with an apology and a guarantee that the security staff would be properly retrained at any point after I left. But, after the shoddy treatment I received, even after they realized they had made a mistake, I want to fight this thing to the end.
How do you recommend I go about contacting the State's Attorney? I understand that the prosecutor has some discretion on filing charges, and that they have many other cases on the table. There is no dispute of the facts, there were security cameras everywhere, and the guard agreed with my version of the events when speaking with the officer. Also, I would like to file a civil suit against them, but must admit that money is an issue for me. How do you suggest I find a lawyer/firm that would take this case on a contingent fee?
Thanks for the time,
Shaneal
Thanks for the support,Stinks. Did you happen to catch the manager's name? At this point, you could either complain to corporate, or try pitching your story to the local media.The store is located at
175 Ambassador Drive
Naperville, IL 60540
(630) 548-2000The security guard's name is "Malcom Melton," and the corporate office he works out of has a number (630)963-9456.
I called the States Attorney's office for my county and spoke to a prosecutor who "said charges would not be forthcoming." Basically, his explanation was that I wasn't detained long enough for him to bother. The police report is filed with the Naperville Police Department, report number [redacted].
I also contacted the bar, and was told that no lawyer would take this case on a contingency because there weren't enough damages, but I was welcome to hire a lawyer on an hourly basis. However, they informed me that in all likelihood the attorney's fees would be ten to twenty thousand, which I can't afford.
Thanks for your quick response. No one else seemed bothered by this. All I really want is for them to change their policy and/or retrain the guards. Hopefully, with your support they will at least be shamed into doing that much.
I did not get the manager's name unfortunately; by the time I was leaving and got around to taking names the manager had already disappeared. I emailed corporate with the story too, but have yet to receive a response.The voluntariness of the receipt checking is an interesting issue that we've touched on before. Unless you've signed a membership agreement agreeing to receipt checks, or they actually see you shoplifting, stores have no right to stop you from leaving the store for refusing a receipt-check. However, in the grand scheme of things, it's probably a lot easier just to flash your receipt and get on with your life, but you're perfectly within your rights to make a stand about the issue. Furthermore, beyond the mere detainment, the Tiger Direct store definitely went "beneath and below" by verbally assaulting you.Thanks for the suggestion, but I doubt the local media would be very receptive to my claims. When the whole warrantless wiretapping scandal was taking place the little coverage it got was all in favor of government (e.g., "If you're not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to worry about"). I'm fairly certain they'd just tell me I should have showed the guard the receipt and been done with it.
As you said, the reason you've had a hard time getting people interested in your case is because you didn't actually incur any monetary loss. Companies care about balance sheets, not feelings, so your options for recompense are relatively limited. The most satisfaction you can probably hope to get is that I've just posted your story, informing more consumers of their rights, and casting a big stinky shame cloud on TigerDirect of Naperville, IL.
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Coming from Tigerdirect this doesn't surprise me one bit. They have been the worst in my experience when it comes to customer service. After over a year of refusing to shop there I decided to try them out and see if anything had changed. I went in and asked about a sound card to see if they had one in stock and the woman they had working didn't even know what one was! Why have someone working in a computer store if they dont know ANYTHING about computers??
Before I boycotted them I had spent over 3-4k there when I finally got tired of their HORRIBLE warranty and return policies.
Well a nice walk around the VHS tape section with a powerful magnet taped to your hand is fun. Magnets do help with dyr skin [:-)]and using one while shopping for VHS tapes is good therapy. I hear tell the same benefit is true, for your hands that is, when stroking and shopping for 20" monitors.
I suppose that might make you feel better.
I agree with CTHULHUBOT.
This whole situation could have been avoided if the shopper would just show the receipt. That would only take a second.
Now you have to fight the store with a lawsuit.
Good luck with it.
Oh by the way, have you set up a Paypal account to accept donations to cover legal fees?
Its tough to have sympathy for Shaneal. Ive been on both sides of the situation, and I have to say its easier to just show the receipt. Unless your buying hard core fetish porn you dont want people to know about (which is understandable at that point), what's the difference of showing them your receipt? It makes it so they dont have to raise their prices because of theft, it keeps the cashiers honest, and all around a good business practice.
I see no logical reasoning behind not showing them the receipt other then the fact you want to make your life harder.
@Cthulhubot: I'm with you. It sucks that it went down like that...but what was the point of not showing the receipt? Just to make a point of not showing it?
Just a small note, by posting his name, he will probably counter sue for slander. Your story is intriguing, but next time, I'd highly recommend consulting a free legal advice call center, there are many in the US, before posting this on a blog. In addition, by entering the store, which is private property, you agree to their terms, yes that was unlawful holding, but if showing your receipt is a policy of the store, sorry man, but you gotta do it. Like many people, I avoid Tigerdirect like the plague, I've had horrible customer service experiences there myself.
I just called the named store and spoke with the manager who was on duty yesterday. I asked her what she has to say about the incident, explaining to her that I am a customer and it makes me question my loyalty to their store. She was extremely rude to me and claimed that the reality was that the customer had two paid items on the screen and was walking out with three. Odd that the person then didn't end up arrested for shoplifting. Also would give good reason to file for defamation as they are now telling other parties the customer stole when clearly there is no proof of that.
I would certainly be willing to throw a few dollars your way if you started accepting donations. I believe if you sued in Federal District Court that you could also obtain a judgment that would force them to change their policies. I had a similar incident happen recently where I was told by an officer of the RTD (our local public bus system) that it was illegal to take pictures on public property and he ordered me to put away my camera. I called their legal department and was told that he had violated my rights. Then I called the manager of the offending officer and was told that I was in the wrong.
It's unfortunate that all-to-often corruption is systematic along with the abuse of people's rights and this is one example. Is there any contact information available for this store? I would love to do some investigating and calling.
Comrade Ringo Kamens
I know a lot of people don't like Circuit City but that was one of the things I like about them when working there. We did not bother customers with checking their receipts unless they set off an alarm. It was a breath of fresh air after working at CompUSA and ringing some one out only to have the security guard, literaly 4 feet away from me, make customers show him their receipt. It's a big waste of time for customers and having the guard walking the aisles would be a better theft deterrent than having him babysit the exit.
So the physical restraint was blocking your path and the verbal abuse was being called a thief. Can you say "frivolous" lawsuit or what? Sounds like someone really needs to learn to pick their battles. I mean they asked you to see the receipt, do you really expect people to be polite to you when you're obviously being a complete dick?
Yes this is a really dumb situation. Many stores have the policy of checking receipts at the door. It's like being carded when you're obviously over 21. This poor security guard was just doing his job and now this guy wants to sue him? Maybe they just have a lot of time on their hands and some control issues. Crazy! I'm disappointed in you consumerist for taking this guys side.
i agree, it's hard to feel bad for shaneal, but i do think it's a bit bogus for a company to refuse your exit after legally purchasing something. don't they watch the registers? don't they notice that someone walking, say, straight out of the exit, as opposed to around the corner from the registers, is probably the real theif? i wonder how many people actually got away with walking out of the store while you she was detained by the security staff....
i'd personally try saying you where detained from work, and lost valuable clients because of it (cha ching...)
Let's take the other side:
Why couldn't they just let him leave? Was it too much trouble to not do anything untoward and allow the customer to walk out of the store after *gasp* spending money there?
More importantly, there is no law stating that you must show your receipt, while there IS a law stating that you cannot hold an individual against their will in the absence of a criminal offence (and in many locales, the offence must be a felony).
@Shaneal - You are part of the problem. Was this really worth it? It would have taken you less than 2 seconds to show your receipt or since you think it's some travesty of civil rights you should have just kept walking. I'd go as far as to say you were LOOKING for a fight and now you want to WASTE the state attorney's time with your frivolous suit? You're part of the problem, you litigious jackass. I'm just glad the police officer had enough sense to NOT arrest the security guard (who's just trying to do his job).
@FREEDOMBOY - Yeah that'd be great revenge if this was 1987 and stores stocked VHS tapes, you're gonna look pretty stupid trying to rub a DVD with a magnet :) .
@alexander: How about right to privacy? What I buy isn't the business of anyone else. Beyond having to have a cashier ring the transaction up, it really doesn't need to be shared with anyone else.
People should not have to give up rights. And people certainly should not have to bend over and give up their rights on a whim because "it would have avoided the situation". The situation should not have been created in the first place.
You too, I suppose.
Where do you draw the line? A full search of your coat and bags? Frisking you? Having to buzz you out of the store?
It isn't much of a stretch.
Great email, and great post. Kudos to the OP for holding ground on this issue. Personally I despise this policy. I took a similar stand at a Walmart last week, and left the pack of uneducated, "bag checkers" scratching their heads.
However lame the story sounds when repeated, (receiving a blank stare, and the "why didn't you just show your receipt?"), I must say sometimes people like that need a little shove, knocking them down a peg.
@Christo67: What point is there to having a life if we bend over and give up our rights anytime they are brought into question. You can have that world, I don't want to live there.
Wow, the comments on this post are pretty much par for the course of this blog. I'm not sure what's more unnerving though, that people are giving this guy grief for putting up a stink when receipt showing is *voluntary*, or that most of you can't be bothered to defend your rights because standing up for them would be an inconvenience to you.
Give me a fucking break. He was hassled for no good reason, other than the fact that the guard/company were complete pricks and didn't understand the law.
Well you could've avoided the whole thing as others have stated simply by showing him the receipt. Perhaps you were in a bad mood and decided to do that. Anyways, that may or may not be the case. They broke the law by detaining you and verbally slandering you. You can contact Lisa Madigan's office. Do a google on her name and you go to the state attorney's office website. You can download complaint forms there, print them up and mail them in. They are slow though. I'm in the process of trying to get back money owed to me by a shody contractor. A week after sending in the complaint I got a letter in the mail acknowledging that they got the complaint. That was about 3 weeks ago and I have yet to hear form anyone since. If you've got the time and patience, that's a step you can take. Skip DuPage county's system and go straight to the State level.
Yes, clearly when someone's leaving a store with a bag of merchandise, he's stolen it, and it's fully warranted to risk that a person who just spent his money in your store will never do so again when you make unfound accusations.
This reminds me of my first job, when they said we had to stop giving away plastic bags for customers to put over their hair when it suddenly started pouring while they were shopping. "They might put merchandise in the bag and walk out!"
I just rolled my eyes and ignored them in favor of the customer.
@RvLeshrac:
Fair enough, I'm all about civil rights but does that mean we just throw common sense out the window? Look I think we all shopped at enough Bestbuys, TDs, CCs, to know their policy. 90% of the time the security guard just stands there with a marker just to make sure you HAVE a receipt. Let's get real they are generally not going over every minute of the receipt. It takes all of 0.5 seconds to show them that little piece of paper. Is this worth a police officers time? Is this worth a state attorney's time? I'd go as far to say this isn't even worth the security company's time.
While I agree it would have been easy to "just show the receipt," that's not really the point. The logical reason to not show a receipt is simple: you don't want to. There's no legal requirement for it. There is no reason for it. Perhaps not showing the receipt is a simple objection to the policy -- a policy that involves one more person being given the "job" of snooping into your business.
As far as receipt checking goes, I can't imagine it does much to stop shop lifting of any sort. Sure, there's the occasional story of some guy with a $4 receipt trying to walk off with a plasma TV in his cart. But, if anything, all that means is that people walking off with $4000 worth of very large merchandise should be scrutinized.
See, anywhere I've been that checks receipts will either (1) look only at the receipt, or (2) look at the receipt and compare it with what's in the cart or the shopping bags in about 2 seconds.
In other words, people can still stuff whatever they want into their pockets and that receipt-checker will be none the wiser. You can put things in a purse or backpack. At best, receipt-checking creates an "air of fear" for lazy thieves, and forces them to steal small expensive things (which are easily hidden) instead of big expensive things. Sure, idiots trying to walk off with plasma TV's for free may be stopped...but they could be easily caught with other means.
So why should every honest customer be subjected to having another grubby employee touch their receipt and poke around in their merchandise, when it doesn't really stop any but the stupidest thieves? Why should anybody accept this reduction of their rights just because it's "easier" than objecting?
Receipt checking does little, if anything, to stop theft and keep prices low -- but the employment of the security guards at the door is a definite cost to the store, slows down exit from the store, and is certain to raise prices since he's got to get his paycheck from somewhere.
I say huzzah for standing up for your rights; what have you lost by doing so? You lost a little time, and you discovered just how idiotic the store management is (a good thing to know; next time they could screw something up that costs someone money.)
Two suggestions:
1) I have heard of this thing called "small claims court". :) I know nothing about it, but would it apply in this case? Since the damages you suffered are obviously minor, and the idea is to make a point and not back down, sue the store (or the security company) for $100 or something.
2) Post/hand out flyers in front of the store explaining people's rights regarding receipts. Either make it a hit-and-run operation, or make sure you are within the law (not trespassing etc).
3) Talk a competing store to run an ad saying "Why go to a store where they treat you like a thief? Come to Dis-Co! Our security guards actually know the law!" (I wonder if one could actually talk a store into doing this.)
Wow: I'm more upset at all these comments blaming Shaneal for not going along with the flow and doing whatever the store asks than the actual illegal detention.
Doesn't standing up for principles mean anything to you kids? Volunteering your receipt is saying "it's reasonable to expect me to be a criminal and it's up to me to convince you otherwise"
I've worked as a mahager in contract security for a few years now. The Officer in question screwed up, plain and simple. Policy for this sort of thing is: Ask (politely) to see a receipt. "Ma'am, may I see your receipt?" If they refuse...you can NOT detain them. At most all you can do is follow discreetly to acertain direction of travel or a plate number. Contract security officers are NOT protected under merchant privilage laws. Unless Illinois works drastically different than the states I've dealt with.
Also, it's Securitas. They tend to deal with lower paying accounts and thier officers wages reflect this. I've met very competent professional officers that work with that company, but they're hard to come by at $7-$8 per hour.
Regardless of whether or not a receipt is shown to a hired guard or not, they should not stop you or prevent you from leaving. You paid for the items, obviously a cashier was involved that checked out the items. A majority of the time, they want your receipts so they can draw on it, that way if the same receipt makes it through the guard, its been used in a scam. However, it is illegal for them to do this, no contract is signed saying you must do it. If the guard/cashier did their jobs right, a search of your bag shouldn't be needed. I suggest boycotting the store, and having people you know that don't want to ever shop there or don't like the store, repeat what you did. If a pattern is seen, that they refuse to let people leave, you may have a bigger case. Also remember that if they are verbally abusing you, to record it with your cellphone cam, or carry a compact digicam with you at all times like I do. A few years back,I was at a best buy with my friend and his father, they wanted to buy a new monitor, I picked one out and his father paid for it. 5 ft away was the guard that witnessed the purchase, however, his father was wearing tight jeans and was lifting the box of the monitor, thus making it impossible to reach the receipt without putting down the box, reaching into his very tight pocket and getting the receipt. The guard asked for the reciept, my friends dad said he can't reach it. He has back problems, and bending down to pickup things is one of the things that he can't do. Putting down the box is not an option. The box weighed over 200lbs and all three of us were carrying it from the counter and shopping cart, into our hands. It was snowy outside so a shopping cart was useless. After refusing to give the receipt, the guard pushed the kids dad away from the door causing him to lose grip of the tv, it falling, and crushing our hands. The guard blocked the doorway, and everyone was looking because of the loud thud the tv made and the loud ouch expression we both made. My friend's father (an ex-marine) asked for assistance from another employee, to help lift the tv high enough so he could grab it. A man came and helped. The tv box, when lifted, made sounds of broken glass. (This was a CRT TV/monitor). My friends father looked at the manager, who came over, saw everything and started yelling at the guard. He said the cost of the tv has coming out of his salary since he pushed Dan(my friends father) and the box, causing us to drop it. The guard got angry, started cursing out Dan and while talking, let out luggie onto Dan. All hell broke lose. Dan told the guard in a high tone that he had committed assault while in his face, while whipping the luggie of his face. The guard didn't like Dan screaming in his face so he spat again. Of course the first luggie is already considered assault and terms for getting an ass kicking, but the second one was what put the guard in a cop car after Dan gave him a right hand to the jaw. Dan was not charged, since he was defending himself. Dan got a new tv, but not the same one. The manager instead gave Dan a gift card for $4,000. The CRT was put in the back by employees and Dan got a nice LCD TV for his troubles. I got a free game and so did my friend, since we got our hands crushed. Overall the manager was very apologetic, and did what was in the customers interest. (Also to avoid a lawsuit) Lucky for him Dan, would never have sued, and the gift card made everything better. The guard was charged with assault and was fired. I think he got a few days in jail and a big fine. I have never been back at the store since I haven't visited my friend or Dan in a long time and the 200 mile drive isn't too thrilling.
All that over showing a friggin' receipt, it's silly and unlawful. A crime is being committed it is unlawful to hold people against their will however people seem to be fine with it. Speak up and stand up. Don't be silenced or trampled.
I'm so glad to see this, as I've also stopped showing receipts on leaving a store. I'm doing them the favor by choosing to buy from them; do I really need to put up with being accused of being a thief?
You'll also note that the only places that seem to do this sort of thing are the big boxes (Walmart, Sam's, Best Buy, etc.) -- places where any good Consumerist shouldn't be shopping anyway!
When my wife was pregnant, I took a day off on a blistering hot day to get an air conditioner for our bedroom. As such, it was a weekday and I went to Best Buy as it was close and they had a sale going. The registers near the door were closed and I had to check out at the customer service area in the center of the store. I put the receipt in my wallet, in clear view of the two security guards who were chit-chatting at the front of the store, and proceeded to lug a 60 pound air conditioner out to my car. When I got to the door, they asked for the receipt. There was no place to put the box down and they didn't offer to help. I had to drag it 10 yards back into the store to dig up the receipt. I was pissed and would have returned it except, hey, cranky wife. Last time I shopped at best buy.
I will add...I probably wouldn't sue the low-paid security guard -- he's got no training, and makes no money anyway. He was doing what somebody told him to do, and really probably didn't know better. If I had a low-paying job and needed money, I'd do what my bosses said and not listen to the guy screaming about his rights (umm...to an extent).
On the other hand, the store manager -- he's the boss. He told the security guard what to do, and he came over and escalated the situation. He's higher on the totem pole, he runs the store, he makes policies, his policies overstepped bounds and so did he, and his harassment of customers is more for his profit (while the security guard is just trying to keep his job) -- he should be punished. Sue him directly, and find a way to get his bosses mad at him. Perhaps scan your receipt from the day, plus your other $10,000 worth of receipts, and point out the lost business they'll be feeling because of this guy being such a jerk.
Wow. My wife and I run a local arts blog (www.surrealmuse.com) and occasionally I blow off a bit of steam as most bloggers do.
I build all of my own machines and I am loathe to go into Best Buy, although I have slithered into it every now and then.
I have had some pretty bad experiences there and so I was planning on writing an article about how the American public has pretty much been trained to accept bad service. While I was brainstorming, I was also thinking about the new machine I want to build... And most of the parts were going to come from Tigerdirect.
And then I stumbled upon Gizmodo's article recounting your experience.
Out of curiosity, I called the store in question. I told them I was planning on doing a story for our arts blog about customer service, and that I was fact checking the news story "About a guy who didn't want to show his reciept and then was unlawfully restrained."
The person who answered immediately went into corporate BS mode, and I could swear she was reading a script that contained phone numbers for their corporate offices, the names of media contacts, etc.
I told the person that I was disappointed, and that I really like doing business with TD, but I was concerned about future dealings with them. Yeah, I know its a stretch, but I was trying to gauge her reaction.
I got none. She just started repeating the phone numbers.
Way to go, TD. Great way to handle it.
to all those who flippantly said "he should have just shown the receipt", I say go fuck yourselves, idiots.
Unless it's costco or sam's club, the membership rules say you have to show 'em, and they'll revoke your membership if you don't.
I never have shown a freakin' receipt at compusa, fry's, or any other damn store that's open to the public. Don't bother me with illegal bullshit, I'm busy.





















1. Contact the DuPage County state's attorney's office.
505 North County Farm Road, Wheaton, IL 60187
(630) 407-8000
That's a problem as Joe Birkett, the DuPage SA is a nutcase.
2. As I've been there many times, I can tell you that the checkouts are just at the exit & there's no reason that a guard there couldn't see you checkout.
My guess is that this guard has gotten into trouble before & for some reason decided to pick you out as his victim.