Inside The Valentine's Day JetBlue Nightmare
For some reason, JFK stayed open even though no planes could take off in the ice storm. The back up got so bad that the controllers were literally yelling at the JetBlue pilots because the pilots had nowhere to park and were just sitting in the way of incoming planes.
ABC 7 also reports that in June JFK airport had 150 flights where passengers sat on the tarmac for at least 3 hours.
Crazy.
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@chimmike:
hrm...let's disect that comment a bit.
pilots - getting paid mad $ to sit still doing nothing for hours.
passengers - paying $ to get from A to B but instead are sitting doing nothing, not getting what they paid for.
I can sympathize a bit with the pilot's, but it's THEIR JOB.
In June I was going from Midway to Reagan. Delayed 6.5 hours leaving Midway. Delayed 7 hours coming back.
Fortunately I wasn't on the plane either time, but it really throws everything off if you're relying on public transit, rides picking you up, connecting flights, etc. But I did get a free 10 minute phone card and a coupon for some food at the food court that not a single place would accept!!!
3 years ago we would fly home for Christmas (500 mile trip)
Last year it was actally cheaper to rent an SUV for an entire week and drive there. And the 8 hour drive was about what we'd end up spending for total trip time anyway (Always a long wait in Chigago).
And we could bring all the bottled water and soda that we wanted. :)
@Wormfather: To be perfectly fair, previous to that trip, I don't think I've ever really experienced significant delays. I fly 4-5 times a year easy, probably more, generally out of DC/Chicago, and usually get to sit back and enjoy the flight. Just wait, you'll get hit with the law of averages too...
@humphrmi: The article at ABC 7's website(linked under the article; "Inside JFK Airport's ice storm meltdown") is a transcript of the video. Fun fact: most TV news websites' "articles" are just transcripts of the story from the news broadcast.
@gibsonic:
What you don't seem to realize is pilots work in TRIPS, so being stranded at an airport for 6 hours isn't making them money. They are most likely screwing up an ENTIRE trip by missing the next flight they are scheduled to fly, and burning the hours they are legally allowed to work..all screwing them out of the hours and flights they were scheduled to fly therefore NOT making them money.
I can't imagine a pilot being excited about being stuck in the plane on the runway, then stuck in whatever city they are supposed to be flying out of until their airline can figure out how to get them to where they need to be or where they live.
My ex-boyfriend was a pilot and was stranded somewhere due to delays, weather and timing out. He got stuck there for 5 days when his trip was supposed to be 2. He had no clothes and was stuck in a crappy airport hotel in the middle of nowhere for the duration. Can't imagine he was thinking of the "mad $" he was making...wait he was an FO in his first few years so he was making between 20-30k...yeah MAD $$$! I was making more than him as a waitress in a nightclub....
SO after 911, the airlines lost money. Southwest was the only successful airline so all the others emulated them and got smaller aircraft. Then they got greedy and overbooked them and scheduled too many flights. Now they have 90% full flights yet are still somehow hemmoraging money.
If they want to move more passengers, they need to get bigger planes. Meanwhile, Southwest is still making money with small planes and low cost airfare.
@enm4r: You're so right. I'm patient and I wasn't forced to wait ON the plane ... so I'm a pretty good sport about things.
What made it a horrific experience was that I was trying to make a connecting flight ... which I OBVIOUSLY missed ... and then I had registered with a shuttle to take me the 20 miles to my hotel ... and I had to call them FIVE separate times to reschedule.
I was supposed to be sitting in my hotel relaxing by 8 p.m. ... and I didn't get there until after 1 a.m. ... and training started at 8 a.m. the next morning. Hellacious trip ...
I became part of the JetBlue President's Day Weekend debacle, and though I'm very thankful not to have been one of the people stuck in a plane on the tarmac for umpteen hours, I was so angry and discouraged about not being able to talk to a single JetBlue employee for two weeks after the weekend in question that I will use the $200 in credits that JetBlue ended up paying me, and thereafter never fly with them again. I'm too miserly/poor not to pass up what is essentially a free flight to my best friend's wedding, but it doesn't quite cover the $300 I had to pay out-of-pocket to eventually get to my destination on Southwest (it was my birthday weekend, and 3 of my friends were flying in to meet me in Los Angeles).
@sleze69: Southwest only made money because they had financial hedges in place against rising fuel prices, not because of their business model. Take away those hedges, and they would be no better than the other airlines.










Back in September of last year, I was stuck at O'Hare for *hours.* These kind of delays are just mindnumbingly awful.