You dont have to tell me. Read the whole second part of my post. I agree. The "nothing to hide argument" is ridiculous.
]]>@rmz:
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]]>@Whammo: "The bible always seems to turn out right regarding things..."
Except for just about everything.
]]>I can't stand the "nothing to hide" argument. Read my rebuttal to this often used, and always wrong argument here:
Good response! But let's not forget the other things privacy groups do for us like expose e-voting, fight our legal battles in cases like the RIAA and the illegal spying, and keep tabs on illegal and imoral practices by both business and the government.
Who would do this stuff if they didn't?
]]>Focus on the subtleties. Most people are arguing that chips can be useful for certain patients and that's true. But IMPLANTS are another issue entirely!
]]>Not everything that's "voluntary" truly is voluntary. Do you have a choice not to have a social security number? Do you have a choice not to have an RFID passport? Do you have a choice to buy organic, natural foods without processing and chemicals?
The answer to everything is technically, yes, you have a choice, but in reality, do you have the time, the money, and the conviction to do these things? Probably not.
]]>If you throw a frog into a boiling pan of water, he'll jump out, but if you put him in the pan and raise the temperature slowly, he'll stay there and die.
]]>@RottNDude:
Your point is valid, but lets remember that with data sharing and brokering, the number on the chip and the data that goes with it are basically the same thing. Even assuming someone hasn't hacked or bought the database, the number alone is enough to track you.
I'm sorry, but if you don't have a problem with implants, you don't know enough about it. Besides the privacy problems, implanted RFID can be cloned (easily) and they have a nasty tendancy to tunnel through the flesh when exposed to magnetic fields (like an MRI). If you're satisfied that your mother will never in her life need an MRI again, go for it I suppose, but keep in mind, there's no case where an RFID implant is used where an external RFID chip couldn't be used instead.
]]>First Animals then old people then, us? First voluntary, then not? Mark of the Beast indeed. The bible always seems to turn out right regarding things...
]]>If I get my Mark of the Beast early, can I have a vanity number?
]]>Wrong. Verichip is an implantable RFID tag that does not contain anything but an identification number which is tied to a database on some computer.
]]>I used the wrong your/you're, i also said "no body" instead of "nobody".
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The more we are pushed towards using RF id tags for purposes that are difficult to argue against (Track your kids! track crazy old people! track sex offenders! track murders!) the more accepting and tolerant we become of them chipping us as well.
If they rolled out legislation that required everyone have RF ID chips implanted within the year, there would be massive resistance, but if they implement it in more socially acceptable ways that we feel more comfortable with -- be it for the undesirables or your grandfather who likes to go on adventures without his pants or by placing them in IDs, passports and credit cards, we become more comfortable with the idea of it.
If you want to sacrifice your liberty and privacy for convenience, that's fine. I mean hey -- you're a no body, your not doing anything wrong, you're not going against the stream you're not complaining; so you have nothing to worry about.
Well, craig, since you asked, if not for privacy advocates, you would have been chipped without your knowledge or consent a very long time ago. And every single one of your personally identifying documents, including your driver's license, would have been RFID'd as well.
In fact, right this moment, Montana, Maine and other states have already passed bills that they won't be complying with the RealID Act because this undebated, unquestioned, unpublicized bill passed by the chuckleheads in Congre$$ is the ultimate wet dream of ID thieves. But what's that you say? You don't know anything about RFID technology, what it's being used for or even what the RealID Act is? What a shame. Perhaps you should remove the rose colored glasses you've apparently been wearing all of your life to remain blissfully ignorant of current events and the advocation of privacy against an increasingly totalitarian federal government hellbent on making American society 100% surveilled 100% of the time.
]]>@Craig: well for one, i don't need to deal with g-men demanding "show me your papers!" in a russian accent. that is, until READ ID goes into effect.
]]>Outside? Nope. Not without a very sophisticated sensor system as well as a high throughput back end system, which would probably be cost prohibitive. If you're really worried about be tracked, it's your cellphone you have to worry about.
]]>I work as a geriatric social worker, and often have clients with Alzheimer's or other forms of dementia.
Depending on the type of information and intended uses of the chip, I don't see much of a problem with it.
(Of course, the decision to be chipped should be made by the chippee if possible, or their legal Power of Attorney. If a nursing home decided to arbitrarily chip everyone, that'd be problematic.)
]]>From a local headline this week: [www.wral.com]
"Body of Missing Alzheimer's Patient Found in Crabtree Creek"
Of course, a chip like this wouldn't help as it doesn't seem to have GPS tracking, but I think the story serves as an example of how unpredictable this infliction can be and such an advance may help curb potential misadventures in willing patients.
]]>Yes, tracking pets is indeed a grave problem. I lose sleep at night because some pet, somewhere, is being tracked.
]]>Finally, we forced her into an assisted living program, but with this she possibly could have stayed by herself for a little longer.
]]>As long as this remains voluntary then I see no problem with it. Unfortunately these people forget alot. To me, its no different than a medic alert bracelet.
]]>Chip me anytime.
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