POLL: What About Airlines Using Backwards Seats?
Airlines are said to be considering using some seats that face backwards, alternating with forward-facing seats. The proposal aims to both fit in more fare-paying booties, and provide more leg room.
— BEN POPKEN
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@segfault: Like me... I used to get queasy when I had to ride backwards on the commuter train.
If I'm staring into a book or at a computer screen, it's not the other person.
Wow,
someone most likely making 6 figures came up with this idea which may be a scientifically viable way to increase "headcout", but the practicality of this lacks any common sense. If you were sitting in the backwards facing seat and the folks you were "splitting" were siblings or spouses, how akward would this be or how anoying.
@moorie679:
It doesn't increase any legroom at all. It basically saves side to side space in that they can allow the shoulder areas to stick out a bit and over lap each other. Which makes it an even fiercer battle for the coveted arm rest.
Oh thank god. This will make all the hardcore mid-air make out sessions so much EASIER.
But seriously, I'm only OK with this if the person facing me isn't ugly. But they probably will be.
What I want to know is how I will discreetly pick my boogers when the person is making eyes at me. I know I'm hot. But I need some me time when I'm traveling too.
@jamesdenver and nweaver: My understanding is that the FAA banned backward seats on US-registered airliners for safety reasons. Given that, it's hard to imagine domestic airlines doing anything like this...but I could see some European and Asian airlines doing it "just because".
The Times article includes this tidbit:
"He admitted that tests had shown that some passengers might feel uncomfortable with being able to establish eye contact with neighbours. So the company has added a privacy screen at eye level that is pulled out from the seat in front."
Is anyone else having trouble picturing this "privacy screen"? Is it going to be like a cone of silence?
I was thinking this might be good for the better half and I, we can face each other and talk...
But then again we fight a lot and eye contact would probably make things worse :)
And eye contact with Boy George or some smelly meathead wouldn't be all that cool either.
Thank god I don't have to fly all that much!
Add my vote to the capsule hotel idea! There's not much to do on an airplane to begin with: sleep, booze, watch a shitty movie, or try to increase one's miles at the mile high club with the 20-something stewardess in the restroom. If the last option is unavailable (is it me or are the stewardesses not quite as hot as they used to be?), sleep would be my preferred way to kill the time, especially on international flights.
Missing from the poll: D) Hell no, the airlines are cramming too many people in the tiny tin cans to begin with. Let's get some customer service going first before we think of ways to fit more sardines in the can.
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Personally, I'm against any idea that crams even more people into steerage. It's already prohibitively expensive for me to fly unless it's an absolute necessity, and you know they're not going to lower fares. It doesn't have to be increasingly miserable at roughly the same rate as it's increasingly unaffordable.
I'm a tall guy, so there's one good thing about this arrangement for me if there's more leg room- no more squished knees as the passenger in front of me leans back. By the way, am I the only one who never leans my seat back because I pity whoever's behind me, and I know exactly what it's like to have your legroom go from limited to 0? Sleeping tubes would be very nice. I never get airsick, so I don't think backwards seats would effect me in that respect. However... I bet if they carried out this idea they wouldn't lower the fare, and increased leg room would be anywhere from minimal to a figment of your imagination. There will just be more people on the plane. And you know what more people on the plane means? That's right! Longer lines and longer waits. Eventually there will be "standing room only" on these planes...
In all my years of flying I've sat next to someone I'd want to be facing once. The only advantage to this arrangement is if you're seated next to someone who, shall we say, "overflows" their seat. Another disadvantage I don't think anyone mentioned is that you can't stretch out across more than one seat on those rare occasions when you have an empty seat next to you.
you know the human body can stand 2x the amount of force when sitting backwards in a crash as opposed to sitting forwards?
Sitting backwards is safer....
http://www.mailtribune.com/archive/2001/august/080501n1.ht...
@urban_ninjya: yeah i guessed as much... thank you for clearing it up and may the gods of the armrest shine upon thee the next time you board a plane.
Ps: Better get ready to have a couple kids every time you board a plane considering that eventually they will put people so close together some are bound to get pregnant.
aside from the obvious creep factor as described in option a, where is this supposed extra leg room entering the picture? all you're gonna get is the ability to intertwine with the people facing you instead of rubbing legs parallel style, and/or play footsie with someone who's sexy eyebrows indicate they probably don't want to.
@superlayne: Definitely love the sleeping boxes :) I was thinking the same thing and hoping no one mentioned it yet. It'd be the best thing ever, no need to struggle on a 15 hour flight overseas. Economy, I mean ghetto class, sucks major ass. Hell they don't even give you peanuts anymore. Domestic flights here are so damn cheap, and not in the inexpensive way. They make you pay 5 dollars for booze, which is usually shitty. Midwest has a shitty wine with a fish on the label and is 5 dollars. Dumb white people buy it, and I feel bad for them.



























I predict an increase in the proportion of people who get airsick. Facing backwards when a vehicle is accelerating or decelerating feels very weird.