5 Bank Fees To Watch Out For
The nice thing about putting your money in a mattress is that it's never going to charge you a "pillow fluffing fee" or a "paisley-colored sheet fee." Your bed also won't pay you interest and it's not FDIC insured, so SmartMoney has five bank fees to watch out for and how to avoid them.
1. Overdrafts: By processing large checks first, banks maximize the number of overdraft fees. They say this is so you don't end up bouncing your mortgage or car payments, but we think they're lying.
2. Paper fees: Ditch this one by signing up for online statements.
3. Courtesy-Overdraft Fees: Fees when your bank covers your check instead of bouncing it. Avoid this by signing up for an protection plan where the bank transfers funds from your savings.
4: Point-of-Sale Fees: Some banks will charge for the dubious privilege of letting you use a PIN at checkout. Swipe as credit card instead.
5. Last-Minute Bill Pay Fees: Banks can charge for processing your online bill payments faster at the midnight hour. Pay your bills on time.
If you do get hit with a fee, you can try pleading "first offense," especially if you've been a good customer.
You can save yourself from most of these fees by adhering to the simple principle of only using the money you have in your account at the time. — BEN POPKEN
Five Sneaky Bank Fees [Smart Money]
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Yes, most banks have a fee for covering your transactions with Overdraft Protection. So you're not avoiding the fee, you're just paying a different one (usually a bit less).
Also, to students and recent graduates, make sure you know what kind of checking account you have at all times. Before First Union merged into Wachovia, we had a First Union student checking account. When I turned 23, although I was still in school, they converted my account to a basic, no-frills, "regular" checking account with a monthly fee. When I called them on it, they offered me a "free checking" account instead, which was identical to the one they set me up with automatically, but WITHOUT the fee.
In my experience most of these fees are much higher on the entry-level checking and savings plans. Once you upgrade to one of the higher-tier plans many if not all of these fees get waived. The downside is you need to keep a higher minimum balance but you often get much better interest rates as well.
Just a neat tip for you guys about banks. For most of us that live paycheck to paycheck. If you have only like 3 dollars in your account and you still have like 2 or 3 days until you get paid (direct deposit i assume) you are not totally out of luck if you need gas to get to work. When you use your credit card at the pump, it only checks your account for 1 dollar. So, if you have like $1.24 in the account, go ahead and get you a full tank of gas for 30 bucks. It will check for the 1 dollar and let you get gas, then when you fill up, a few days later it will take the remaining money (in this case $29.00). Works like a charm. I know some friends i have told this too and it worked for them as well for everyone out there that will say my bank is just slow..
I can't stand bank fees and think they're an utter ripoff. A good alternative is to use a credit union. These are smaller financial institutions owned/controlled by the people who use them. They enjoy federal deposit insurance, generally have all the conveniences (online banking, decent network of ATMs, loan products, investment services, etc) with few of the annoyances (fees for everything, poor customer service, etc) of big banks. I'd strongly suggest looking into them.
@ScramDiggyBooBoo: Floating money is never a good idea, though, especially if your bank suddenly decides to change how it handles debits (i.e., subtracting them immediately).
It's called floating, and it's illegal. That doesn't mean you won't get away with it as it's hardly ever prosecuted, but don't start screaming and crying when they take away credit card float as well.
Oh, and another tip for you. Assuming you know a transaction is coming through and you don't get charged for transfers, you can always try moving the funds yourself rather than rely on the automatic ODP. It works for me, assuming I have enough to cover the transaction plus the ODP memo-credit, which hits the instant the memo-debit hits. When that happens my transfer goes through before the ODP is calculated.
National City's online banking lists deposits as "pending" for 2-3 days after you deposit the money, and then it says completed. This is pretty standard but apparently they tack on an additional day or two after this where the payemnt is technically pending. So if you try to use the money after it has gone from pending to completed they can charge you over draft fees. I called in they said "oh well we have to wait a few days to make sure its cleared, thats on page 143 of the user agreement."
THATS WHAT "PENDING" MEANS. IF IT'S STILL PENDING, THEN JUST SAY ITS PENDING.
@ ScramDiggyBooBoo: illegal & risky or no, I've been there - no gas sometimes meant not getting to school/work; hated that so I started (slowly) digging out of the financial Pit. However, please be careful relying on that float as with gas hitting $3/gal, many of the pay@pumps are now authorizing anywhere from $25-$100 (even on credit cards). I see these all the time when my customers call in wondering where their funds went. Also, alot of banks have removed the float from their debit cards.
@ all: eStatements are fine - if on a secure site & you d/l'm to the backup storage system of your choice. forget that part & you will get hit with statement copy fees at most banks as they tend to think if you fail to keep the free copy you deserve the fee.
@Charybdis: It's called floating, and it's illegal. really? has someone notified the banks that floating is illegal? it's an integral part of their business model.
@shdwsclan: POS fees are generally charged on DEBIT purchases (PINned), not CREDIT (signed). that is b/c the ATM processing bank charges banks a fee to process the transaction.
& there is no such thing as a credit card minimum. merchants charging this are violating their merchant agreements with the cc companies.
Spending money you do not currently possess is illegal. Keep in mind that floating is a separate legal entity from buying on credit, which is considered a loan. It makes no difference what the banks do or don't do, if you so much as write a check when you don't have the funds to cover it then and there you're in the wrong.
That doesn't mean people don't do it, and I'm as guilty as anyone else of relying on float at times. But people need to be aware that this is not something they're entitled to, it's a quirk of the system that may be 'corrected' at any time. Just like with Check 21 - it was simply making it harder for people to do what they had already agreed not to do in the first place. They just didn't bother reading that part of the agreement.
It appears that the ATM fees for running your debit card as a debit are coming out of the merchant fees. I know where I work, we pay Mastercard, Visa, AMEX and Discover a fee for each of their cards we run, but a single flat fee for the privilege of being able to run debit cards. We don't charge our customers for that, but the banks do, and there are fewer protections in place than with a credit card transaction.
Hence, when I train cashiers, they're taught to ALWAYS ask before running something as a debit card.
@a_m_m_b: You're far better off getting a gas card and paying it off every month. My husband and I have been doing that since the major hurricanes a couple of years ago made gas prices go insane in the area, and we've never had to worry about whether the money's there any given day we need the gas, or which budget lines we need to move around because some butterfly sneezed in Guam, causing gas prices to jump again. We just gas up, go, and pay it off when the bill comes.
A security expert actually wants paper mailed to his/her house where it can be stolen or lost in transit? Wow. I'm a security expert, too, and I get every statement possible sent electronically (they don't send the statement, they just send notification that it's available, you download the statement if you want it). If you want a paper trail, you print the .pdf file. Not even my mailman knows where I bank, much less anybody who gets my mail by mistake (which happens frequently in my neighborhood) or mail theft. Paper with your bank information all over it is exactly what you *don't* want floating around!
I've been a victim of this today!! I deposited my money on may 25th, 2007 and had also assigned my checks to clear on the 25th of may, well my dumbass accidentally deposited the money in my savings and had to transfer it to my checking today. When i look at my account i had 7 overdraft items. i had 260 in my account on friday and they cleared the biggest check first which let them charge me 7 times overdraft fees on small transactions. AND 4 of those small transactions were made on the 23rd when i had money in my account yet it cleared on the 25th and they hit me with overdraft fees each of
$35 for a 5 dollar transaction made on the 23rd. i called the bank and they said they wouldnt at least waive the transactions made before the 25th. the bank was BANK OF AMERICA, I understand that it was partially my fault but they do this to get more money out of your account . Its unethical and unfair. Im sure they clear the biggest check for our "convience" yea right they do it to make more money. so now I've paid 500 dollars in the transactions that cleared and the overdrafted fees altogether.
Something to watch out for is banks that have began charging overdraft fees on pending transactions. I recently just got a letter in the mail from BOA explaining this new policy and had to deal with the issue on an account with Fort Hood National Bank in the same week. We had rented a car, which we had already paid for with our card. The rental company placed the typical $200 authorization on our card. Then we purchased gas and other items. (It allowed us to purchase the gas b/c it only authorized $1 as previously mentioned) but when the charges actually started billing to the account it made it look like we would be overdrawn due to the $200 still being on hold. The bank accessed $120 in nsf fees even though we still have a positive balance. This just seems downright nasty to me. I was told in order to correct it and have the nsf fees reversed we needed a letter from the rental company saying the authorization was a mistake. If the bank can now charge you for being overdrawn for charges that are merely pending and may never actually bill to your account, where does it all end? And for that matter, how do they decide how many fees to bill when nothing has been presented that to make the account go into a negative balance?











If they charge a fee for paper statements, shift banks.
I'm a computer security expert. I do NOT accept electronic statements from my bank and credit card companies. Send me a physical paper trail.
Likewise, NEVER use your ATM card, in ANY form, at merchants. USe a real credit card instead.