Post Office Meltdown: Customer Flips Out On Video At Brooklyn Post Office
"Get the manager over here!" screams the unidentified customer to a postal employee behind a counter window. "I want the manager. We'll see how long you have your job, sweetie."As crazy as this guy seems, from what we hear about this post office, he may have been under-reacting. —MEGHANN MARCOAfter several minutes of the customer's rant, three police officers respond to the scene, but the 5-minute, 43-second clip ends too soon to see what happens next.
A Police Department spokesman told the Daily News that the man was released after he was given a verbal warning, but there was no record of his name because he was not arrested.
It's unclear what tipped the customer over the edge.
"Who the hell do you think you are?" the employee is heard yelling at the male customer as others look on.
"I'm the customer, you stupid bitch," the man responds.
Online vid shows post-office meltdown [Daily News via Gothamist]
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I live in Williamsburg, another part of Brooklyn to those of you don't know, and I went to my local post office today. I had a letter I wanted to mail, but I knew I needed more than the regular amount of postage. I got there around 45 minutes before closing time (6:15 p.m.) to see the line over halfway to the door. I looked around to see how many people were working behind the safety glass. I saw one register open. I figured, "What the hell, might as well." Around 6:45 p.m. I had worked my way up to only third in line. The line behind me had grown to at least twice as long as it was since I got there. They finally had someone come out to handle the pick-ups. That helped out a lot. By the time I got up to the safety glass, it was 6:57 p.m. The guy, Edward, refused to use the mic and tried to talk to me through the money slot in a tone of voice I would have had to strain to hear if we were the only two in the room. I understand this guy's frustration.
I feel for the guy, even if he did screw up by calling names. I recently stood for twenty-five minutes at the head of the line at my post office, with twenty-odd people behuind me, while postal workers drifted in and out of the room, fiddled with registers, and left. Not once did any of them speak to us or even attempt eye contact. When one guy finally lost his cool, everyone else stood behind him- we all refused to step up to the register until they brough out the supe. he requested. Haven't been back, either- I go to the UPS store now.
This is my post office and I have to agree that it is by far the worst post office I have ever used. There are at least 15 windows available for workers and I've never seen more than 4 people behind them at any given time.
The people behind them are so slow, apathetic, and obnoxious its really kind of funny. The greatest part about that post office is that they try to push you off on to the automated machines, but there are never any express or priority boxes available and your only hope of getting one is if the people behind the counter have one. So you have to wait on line (for 30 minutes minimum), in order to use the automated machines!!! Classic brooklyn ghetto style!!
Eh, after reading the story, I kinda feel bad for the guy, but he lost his cool. No matter how bad the service is, you don't call someone a stupid beotch. If you were on the other side of the glass having to deal with the customer, would someone calling you that name inspire you to work harder or service the customer better? It may get the job done quickly, but you can bet that if you won't be back, you'll get worse service the next time. Keep in mind that the postal employees can look up your address. So if the guy in the video did get the person's job, you can bet the fired employee would indeed "go postal" on the customer.
I think this needs to be in the Consumerists library under "How NOT to get better service"
@aRrr-k: You are limited with those courier, such as ground mail, lower rates, PO Box shipments, etc. As far as the customer, I am sure he was impugned or antagonized to the point of him getting hostile. USPS is horrible, the employees are often ill-informed, lazy, and rude. They can be very condescending when explaining how to mail things and forms, etc. I've seen so many of these types that talk back, vilify and belittle customers at the windows.
When asked for the manager, they should have complied. The postal employee handled the situation very unprofessionally. Rule #1 is to never engage in an argument with a customer, it's never good and you'll always look bad doing so. I was stunned to see her refer back to him several times. Typical horrible USPS - not surprised.
At the very beginning, when he starts saying "Get the manager over here, I want the manager", it almost sounds like Governor Arnold is demanding to see the manager.
Just wish the person behind the counter could have kept their cool a little better, but when confronting with something like that it must be hard.
"Dear Diary, Today some people were mean to me at the post office. I went there to mail my grandmother's angel cake recipe to Charles and Bruce. They were very insensitive towards me. How dare they, who do they think they are? I think I will go sleep kicking and screaming and biting my pillow. And one more thing wait this pen is running out of ink, how dare you pen!!!Who do y....."
Judging by his speech patterns, this guy is obviously has some sort of mental issue going on.
From the customer service point of view though I see both sides of this. As someone who works in retail, we have a woman that goes off like this every few months complaining about someone for the stupidest things and everyone, worker and customer alike laugh at her and then the managers come out and laugh at her too. It's quite amusing.
On the other hand, I actually attend to customer needs and everywhere I've worked it has been my specialty. And I can see how people could get mad at someone if they just didn't care. It's very annoying. Especially with something as important to the USPS. I'm in Brooklyn and I can attest to them doing absolutly nothing to help a situation.
I'm so disenfranchised by them that I recently had to mail a VHS tape overnight and paid $50 at UPS just because I trust them more as a service.
OK, everyone involved in that exchange is out of bounds. The customer had no right being abusive, and the employee was wrong for reacting.
That said, I can really identify with the frustration with obnoxious or rude customer service experiences that eventually led to him screaming "I'm the customer, you stupid bitch!"
But not with the Seattle USPS employees. They've always been very nice and helpful.
I know. That's my post office and they are HORRIBLE there. I imagine that sort of thing happens pretty often in 11218 but people just don't always have their cellphone video recorders at the ready. Our neighborhood just had a meeting to try and figure out what to do about this particular post office (I didn't go).
I know someone with Aspbergers Syndrome, and he has almost the same inflection as this guy (minus the lisp). From what I understand, Aspbergers affects an understanding of how to react in social situations.
And, well, even if it's not that, I think this guy is a few stamps short of a stamp book, if you catch my drift.
Ironic that the three policemen arrived quicker than the time it took for the supervisor to walk 12ft to speak to the customer.
Dealing w/ irrate customers isn't that hard. Lots of nodding, listening then working out something that's amenable to both parties. PaTHEtic that they called the police for some shouting guy.
It's a government job, they don't have to try.
@Havok154: As a government worker (who works hard) and a former postal carrier, I think that's a bit unfair.
And, may I add I speak for all government workers, except those Republican appointees in the Bush administration. They may work hard but not in the way I want them to.
the thing thats so fascinating to me about all of this is the fact everyone else is just quietly standing in line going about their postal business.
how did they not punch him in the face?
im all for complaining and making sure people do their jobs well and right, but after a while it seems like someone making such a fuss (even if they were right) would get really annoying.
I used to work as a USPS customer service rep (call center) and customers being treated this way was a VERY common complaint for me to hear, some were like this guy demanding the person's job (and sometimes mine too since I was customer service and I couldn't give them what they want over the phone) and it really is a sad thing. Even with the call center all they do is write up a report and forward that to the post office, where it is often discarded. Lovely system, isn't it?
I feel really sorry for this guy, although I believe he went overboard not only when he started calling her a derogatory term, but her entire generation (I'm assuming it is a younger clerk). I kind of see his behavior from both perspectives, both from the clerk's as well as from his. They both were out of line, I think.
@aRrr-k: UPS/FedEx/DHL/etc. can't deliver first-class mail. The USPS has given itself a monopoly on that business. So, if you have to mail a letter, you have nowhere else to go.
As for this guy's attitude... I haven't watched the video yet but you shouldn't ever respond to an angry person. It just makes things worse.
But for the guy to get that angry, the USPS must have done something really bad. Think about that -- horrible servikce and no competition. Of course people are going to get upset.
"She's losing her job!"
"I'm having her fired."
"Right now! She's lost her job!"
Seriously... who the hell DOES he think he is? I'm pretty sure he's not the manager, because he keeps asking to see her. Honestly, I think she handled it badly... but I think that guy's directly out of his god damned mind.
What they "did" to him in this case was as follows, he went up to the glass in a hurry, and told her that she needed to open up more windows. She responded that they didn't have the staff for it on hand. He asked her why not... and it escalated when she was unable to make these workers materialize out of her ass. I believe she eventually was belligerent or said something that he construed as rude.
Frankly though, I have always been amazed by the petulance of some people. They want satisfaction here and now, and will terrorize the first person they see, regardless of whether they set policy or have ANY ability to truly address the complaint.
I'm sure there's two sides to the story, neither one good. But this guy's behavior is beyond ridiculous.
There is a problem in America today, and that problem is customers with a sense of entitlement.
You know the ones.
The guy in front of you at the return desk who wants to return something he bought six months ago because it doesn't work. When he's informed of the two week return policy he rants and raves for a manager and complains at that manager until they do take it back, raising the prices everyone pays for products.
The customer that calls a store repeatedly, pretending they've never called before, trying to find someone who will tell them what they want to hear regarding a return... so they can come into the store and be that first customer I described.
The customer that tries to return WalMart merchandise at Target and demands to speak to a manager when they won't do the return, even when shown the other store's tags on the merchandise.
They scream and rant and shout, all under the banner of "But I'm the customer" the implied "and I'm always right" hanging in the air.
The worst place for a person like this is the post office, or a final clearance sale, or anywhere a customer can go where the management frankly doesn't care if you don't come back.
Oh, they may pretend they care. They give you face time and apologize, explaining to the customer why they were treated as they were and how they hope to keep you as a customer. But we all know the truth. We know that if they haven't remedied the problem you complained about after a month, they simply don't care to or don't need to. The management knows that the problem either won't stop people from coming in or don't care if it does.
You might be amazed, but many managers in retail stores specifically tell cashiers NOT to call them in situations like this, unless it's to call the police. They give their employees instructions as to what to call them for, but none of those situations directly come from a customer requesting a manager.
This customer's actions are typical of such an emasculated customer. One who has realized. if only a tiny bit, that the business they're shopping at simply doesn't buy into "the customer is always right" and won't bend to customer requests for a manager. The manager already decided some complaints are unimportant before you ever come in... and when some customers realize that, either through management inattention or employee reactions they become unhinged, like this fellow.
Thank God I didn't work at that post office (though it does look very farmiliar to one near me). I probably would have come out and beat that guy senseless and been arrested.
He is a jerk, she was wrong to comment or respond to him, but alot of folks would have actually responded back with violence (me being one of them).
Very disappointing to see all the homophobic comments on here.
It just looks like a case of two people mutually overreacting to one another.
That said, you would hope the person with the job would try to act more professional - but then again, it seems like these days "government job" has become synonymous with "uneducated and unqualified to work at any competitive job."
Even when the USPS fubar's attempts to do something right, like install the new automated mailing machines, which are fantastic when they work. So I go to use it today (Sunday), get my packages all set and go to place them in the bin, which is locked!? WHY have a 24/7 machine when you can't then mail the packages you just stamped.


























Regardless on what was wrong, no employee, private or government, should ever be called the names this jerk was doing. Obviously this guy was "going postal".