Finder Of Apple Porn On His Daughter’s Laptop Interviewed

UPDATE: Imran works as a system administrator at Orange, the mobile arm of France Telecom.

Our, “Apple Sells “Refreshed” Laptop Filled With Porn To 11 Year Old Girl” tipster, Hasan Diwan, pictured conducted a followup interview with the man who bought the laptop.

Hasan: So, you went to the store on Regent Street and bought a Macbook?
Imran: Yes
Hasan: and then boarded the tube back home?
Imran: Aye
Hasan: At what point did you decide to do the post-install configuration?
Imran: I’d never bought an Apple before and me daughter needed a computer for word processing. She’s only 11 and isn’t a computer nut like you as yet, so I decided it would be best if I handled the post-install configuration, you know — women and computers
Hasan: Then what happened?
Imran: I turned it on, there was no post-purchase setup, it logged me in to the desktop, which was full of pictures, a shitload of them.
Hasan: Did you examine further?
Imran: I clicked one. Mr Hunt would probably approve (Mr Hunt is vernacular for a pimp)
Hasan: What did you do next?
Imran: I went to the Terminal and typed rm -rf ./Desktop/*JPG ./Desktop/*jpg
Hasan: Mind if I relay this to a friend who runs a blog for consumer advocacy ?
Imran: Not at all, but yours will get the exclusive.
Hasan: Many thanks

This makes not one, but two IM interviews conducted on the subject. Can we get any more irrefutable? — BEN POPKEN

Apple — Giving Customers More than Computers [Hasan Diwan on the Web!]

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  1. grant0 says:

    Holy wow! IT MUST BE TRUE.

  2. GenXCub says:

    Me daughter? are they always after his lucky charms?

  3. mechanismatic says:

    “so I decided it would be best if I handled the post-install configuration, you know — women and computers”

    I would have understood it if he’d said “you know, — young children and computers” (even though there are some l337 11 year olds out there), but “women and computers” ? Way to win the politically incorrect award guy.

  4. humphrmi says:

    Maybe it was “Interview Like A Pirate” Day at Consumerist.

  5. aestheticity says:

    I doubt he gives a crap about being PC. For this I respect him.

  6. zentec says:

    “Can we get any more irrefutable?”

    Well, no, they wiped the machine. But lack of proof isn’t proof, now is it? Any chance of collaborating the story is shot out the window.

    I’m not making excuses for Apple, but this just smells of the “finger in the chili”,”big toe in the burrito” and whatever else consumer nonsense that happens. If this is indeed true, then the management at the Apple store needs to be, in British vernacular, sacked. But since there isn’t any way to confront Apple with any proof, that isn’t going to happen. I’m certain the file dates on the files would be an interesting bit of information.

    I don’t understand why the purchaser handled the incident in this manner unless there’s alterior motives. I would have marched the laptop right back to the store and demanded a replacement. Not wipe the drive, not parade around with members of Parliament and not use it as an opportunity for internet notoriety; I’d just get a machine that I know had not been used in such a manner.

    Then, I’d go about my business and write it off as a misfortune. Apple does not want to distribute pornography to eleven year olds unless they purchase it through the iTunes service.

  7. segfault, registered cat offender says:

    “..(Mr Hunt is vernacular for a pimp)…”

    I call BS. It’s not in Urban Dictionary, so it must not be true.

  8. Mike_ says:

    Oh yeah? Well I just conducted a second follow-up interview …

    Mike_: How ’bout them rainbow suspenders?
    Imram: Huh?
    Mike_: Pretty cool way to keep your pants up, eh?
    Imram: I suppose so.

    There you have it. Irrefutable evidence that some guy named Imram got a pre-owned Mac loaded with porn, and decided the appropriate thing to do was delete it, and then inform the government.

    Jackass.

  9. andre060 says:

    I call BS as well. Seems suspicious that this first-time buyer would even know how to get to the terminal on a Mac to delete them by hand. It’s much more intuitive to simply drag to the trash and then empty it.

  10. Vinny says:

    I call Bravo Sierra, and for one reason only.

    If I were to find porno on a newly purchased computer, and I had intentions of ratting out the place I bought it from, there’s no way in hell I’d delete it first.

    Sorry, I just don’t buy it. It may be true, and that’s fine, but if it is true, the guy who did it is not terribly bright.

    It’s likely the story is true. When a laptop is refreshed at Apple, it’s taken back, wiped clean and a fresh install of the OS is put on and it’s checked for cosmetic hitches (big ones). If the machine was just put back on the shelf without the checks, I can see how it happened, but even then, what’s he going to take to the gov’t and report? A complaint that porn was there?

    No evidence = no case in this case.

  11. RumorsDaily says:

    I conducted a follow up interview as well:

    Ingen: So, you’re making up all those stories about Mr. Hunt and the porn, right?
    Imram: Oh yeah, totally made it up.

    Phew, irREfutable.

    Ha.

  12. Antediluvian says:

    actually, he says he’d never bought an apple before, which suggests he’s never really used one — although he doesn’t say that explicitly.

    If he was not apple-savvy, there’s no way in hell he could have encountered the Terminal, learned the Unix command rm with the -rf switch, and found the hidden location of the Mac desktop.

    If he is apple-savvy, why would he bother to go through the command line rather than using the Finder and deleting everything that way? Especially since on a Mac it’s possible that the files don’t include “jpg” in the file name, and why wouldn’t he want to look for GIF’s or PNG files too?

    Either way, why didn’t he keep copies of the files as evidence?

    Also, if he’s sexist enough to say “women and computers” like that, he’s probably horny enough to want to review the pics later.

  13. North of 49 says:

    “women and computers”

    Ms. No49 was running linux for months until Mr. No49 crashed her OS 5 times in a week.

  14. RobUsdin says:

    Two things don’t add up:

    1 – He’s never bought a Mac before

    2 – “RKH: he reformatted the drive and reinstalled OS X from his Tiger CD”

    I agree that it’s still fishy at best. Any sensible human being would have taken the thing back to the store, demanded to talk to a manager, etc….

    Or are you just playing an elaborate joke on us all here Ben?

    –*Rob

  15. Hoss says:

    Let’s please stick to the important points…

    If a pimp is refered to as “Mr Hunt”, what’s the whore called??

  16. lemur says:

    Yeah, the problem with the original story was “hey, this happened but the evidence was destroyed by the ‘victim’”.

    Now, we have a story that asserts “hey, this happened but I, the ‘victim’, destroyed the evidence.”

    Stop the presses! We have irrefutable proof!

  17. RumorsDaily says:

    I’ve got to assume the Mr. Hunt thing comes from the joke name, Mike Hunt, right?

  18. white trash mom says:

    I think this is true. The guy sounds like a big enough geek to not care about “keeping evidence”–he just wanted to fix the thing for his daughter so she could USE the computer. As the mother of a 12 year old, there is nothing worse than a pre-hormonal pre-teen girl whining, 24/7.
    The man knew he had to fix the damn thing ASAP so he could have some peace. There’s your proof.

  19. acambras says:

    The more I read about this, the more I’m inclined to call shenanigans.

    And a side note — I know it’s been mentioned before, but “women and computers”??? What the hell kind of message is that sending to his 11-year-old daughter?

    But back to the main point of my message — I’m increasingly inclined to call shenanigans.

  20. beatlebill says:

    Jeez, it’s the 21st century. Who downloads porn photos when they can get video??? It’s hard to believe that the previous owner just had jpg’s.

  21. beatlebill says:

    Jeez, it’s the 21st century. Why would there just be jpg’s on the computer and not video files as well??? Wouldn’t he look for those too?

  22. yumyum says:

    Just because he never *bought* an Apple before doesn’t mean he doesn’t know how to use them.

  23. So let me get this straight.

    The average Consumerist reader has trouble wrapping his head around the idea that somebody might get so pissed about finding a desktop chock full o’ porn on a “new” computer that he erases it before he stops and thinks to do anything else.

    The average Consumerist reader also believes that Richard Simmons had no idea his vegetable steamer might catch fire on Letterman, was genuinely furious, and is not “in on the joke” regarding his reputation.

    Are you folks interested in helping out my friend, the Nigerian prince, move some monies around, by chance?

  24. mechanismatic says:

    aestheticity,

    I have respect for people who don’t care about being pc, as long as they have something intelligent to say. The only reason I phrased it the way I did was because I didn’t feel that suggesting he is a misogynist was the most accurate description of his apparently low opinion of women’s abilities with computers.

  25. spinachdip says:

    Does Consumerist not come with a tongue-in-cheek detector? I mean, I realize it’s more British to be satirical or ironic, but do people really think he’s serious?

    Assuming his story is true (I really don’t care either way), it’s obvious the guy wanted to do the post-config setup because that’s what fathers do when they buy stuff for their kids.

    He makes a joke about women, not because he believes women are bad with technology, but because of the common stereotype that they are. The joke isn’t about women. The joke is about the stereotype. He’s talking about a 11-year-old girl!

    It’s like if I went on a bumper car ride with my girlfriend. I might say something about women drivers, and she in turn would say something about Asian drivers. Neither of us actually mean it, because it’s ridiculous to think normal rules of the roads apply to bumper cars.

    We joke because we know it’s offensive and we don’t actually mean it. It’s not about being PC or not PC. It’s, like, how people talk, you know, levity and humor and whatnot.

  26. mechanismatic says:

    It’s easy to assume he’s being serious, because other items posted on the Consumerist are serious and other persons making similar claims about refurbished computers not having been wiped have been treated as true. Plus, it’s easy to believe people are stupid enough to erase the evidence of what they want to complain about. The same as it’s easy to see how stupid people can be in following the orders of a person on the phone who claims to be a cop. And the fact that he’s British means that the many cultural differences can dilute the glaring nature of his sarcasm, if he is indeed being sarcastic. That and the internet dilutes sarcasm since all the words look the same. And it’s easy to conceive that there are people out there who think little of women and their abilities with computers, much less the abilities of an 11 year old girl.

    It would be nice if the Consumerist came with a sarcasm detector, or maybe to only post serious articles (no matter how legitimately stupid the people in the articles might be).

    It’s difficult to tell if Ben’s comment is mocking the articles’ veracity or the concept that an instant message interview could provide irrefutable proof.

  27. acambras says:

    Maybe we need to create a “sarcasticon.”

    And Spinachdip, I would NEVER make a joke about how bad Asian drivers are. We know all the worst drivers are Latin American.

  28. spinachdip says:

    mechanismatic – yeah, it’s easy to assume and sarcasm is infinitely harder to detect when it comes from the internet and/or strangers. But I thought the context – talking about a 11 year old girl, the subtle but telling “you know” – were enough to conclude that the tongue was placed squarely in the cheek.

    Plus, Ben has done enough Swiftian modest proposals around these parts and drops non sequiturs aplenty that we should know better to read everything here literally.

    Anyway, I try to live by the saying, matters of great concern should be treated lightly.

  29. kerry says:

    Just a quick note to those who say “if he’s never bought a mac, how did he know to open the terminal and enter rm -rf ./Desktop/*JPG ./Desktop/*jpg?” Every *nix system out there uses the same basic command language. If he’s a linux nerd or has a NeXTstep box kicking around it’s probably ingrained pretty hard in his head that to erase a bazillion objects in one fell swoop he should do it from the command line.
    Also, as someone else mentioned, just because he’d never bought a mac before doesn’t mean he hasn’t ever used one.

  30. Antediluvian says:

    My point is that while a Mac is a Unix box under the hood, he’d need to know how to open it. If you’ve never used a Mac before, finding the command line is not easy. Finding the desktop from there is not easy. But I qualified my comments because he might have used a Mac without buying one.

    However, his actions would only cover files w/ JPG (or jpg) in the name — not gif or png files, and not files that have no file extension. rm -rf *JPG is a very thorough way to do only part of the job.

  31. Antediluvian is right. You don’t get your # prompt right away. You gotta dig around into Applications->Utilities, get Terminal started and then you can say “ahhhhhh, unix” like I did.

    Took me about 30 seconds top to find Terminal, but I was obsessing digging around trying to get it going. Being a nerd and everything.

  32. Trai_Dep says:

    With the sneer/smirk and all, he sorta looks like the sorta guy that would have x-rated pix on his desktop. There for unsuspecting 11-year-olds to stumble on.

    “Women and computers… You know…” Nice!!

    I second the calls on foul. Mac newbie firing up Terminal and CLI’ing deletion of desktop files? Even my über-geek friends wouldn’t do that. Too… Flashy.

  33. Halloween Jack says:

    trai_dep: The guy in the picture is the tipster, not the guy who supposedly found the porn.

    As for the latter: riiiight. Maybe the headline should read: GUY CAUGHT SURFING PORN ON DAUGHTER’S LAPTOP; BLAMES STEVE JOBS.

  34. someguy1 says:

    did any body read the bit at the top that says “Imran works as a system administrator at Orange, the mobile arm of France Telecom” the guy is a system admin maybe this is why he knows about computers a bit.