CNN Reports On Walmart's Nazi Shirt
Maybe now that it's on CNN, Walmart will actually finally remove the shirts from their shelves. Yes, this is so important, we put two adverbs together. — BEN POPKEN
Attention, Walmart shoppers! This ad is for you! Woo hoo!
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Seriously, this has gone on for way too long. The first time the story broke I was nothing more than bemused at a little slip-up in a big corporation. For me, at least, it's starting to reflect badly on the Consumerist because it shows a clear lack of an attempt at neutrality, especially when it was so clearly unintentional.
I doubt it was intentional but still it was in bad taste, even for a horrible corporation, to buy and sell a shirt with a Nazi symbol. The comments on this long story have been well vocalized so I'm only going to add I'm glad you guys are using Firefox.
Sorry, Gizmodo and Lifehacker are my main Gawker blogs. But After finding this site a few weeks ago I really enjoy the work that this blog does.
It is strange to think that this would make news, so they were some not very nice soldiers, I still don't see what the big deal is. There have been other groups that have been just as bad as them, if not worse, and ones that are more relevant to American history than a group (the SS) that persecuted some people (the Jewish / Gypsies / Gays / and whoever else I forgot) back in the Old World.
Personally, I think it's America's soccer mom attitude to some things, if I walked into a Farmers (Wal-Mart equivalent down here in Sheep Land (read: NZ)) and saw something that I didn't like, i'd just ignore it, or at the most extreme, take my business elsewhere. But what right does that give me to ruin it for other people, sure it's the actual Toten...whatever...skull that the SS used, but I'm sure that some people will try and stretch it to anything with a skull motif.
I say step back, and take a look at the bigger picture.
Oh, and I meant to say, but forgot, my registered name "Sturm Truppen" has nothing to do with this article or my (non-existant) political views. It's my gamer tag, I got it from Day of Defeat Beta 1. I've used it for years.
Just thought i'd clear that up in case anyone thought that I was trying to stir...
:)
Sturm, I would relate this to WalMart accidentally utlizing some popular (for the group) Klu Klux Klan noose, or burning cross with the friendly "Since 1980" underneath.
pretty offensive.
And yes there have been maybe a dozen massacres that come anywhere NEAR the atrocities by Nazi Germany (Cambodia, Rwanda, Bosnia, etc in modern times - I suggest http://www.amazon.com/Problem-Hell-America-Age-Genocide/dp... ) I would venture that carrying a t-shirt reflecting ANY of these would be offensive.
However, the above DON'T relate to Americans more than Nazi Germany because we (sadly) refused to get more involved, and have fewer persecuted members now living in our country.
The story now isn't that they DID carry the shirt, it's that THEY STILL DO!
Cockeyed, yes the totenkopf is an old symbol (much like the swastika) but the Prussian army didn't use this exact version. Skulls over crossed bones are not inherently evil or anything but this specific version was used by SS thus the issue. If they would have stuck to any of the way to many skull designs on shirts now (I counted 4 at Target on Sunday) they would have been fine and there would have been 30 other posts here.
The capital S in 'Since' is actually the S used by the far right band Skrewdriver. A band who were influential in the development of the Rock Against Communism movement which started in 1978 in the UK. Rock Against Communism is now synonymous with White Power Nationalist music in the United States.
http://www.dasversteckspiel.de/bilder/skrewdriver_1.jpg
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Against_Communism
It is my opinion that this is more than a hack designer. The person who put this image together seems to know more than a little about the modern far right.
Actually, that letter "s" is very old, and has nothing to do with Nazis. It is a variant of Blackletter, or Gothic Script.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackletter
In use between 1150 and 1500. The Gutenberg Bible was printed with a similar version.
Look up any calligraphy website. It's not just for gang tattoos. It was one of the only "fonts" for hundreds of years, and yet there must be a thousand permutations on it. Have you ever had a close look at the Declaration of Independance, or any of the certificates on the wall at your pharmacists or doctors?
That "s" is everywhere!
On the flip side of the coin is the band Kiss - if you take their logo and remove the first two letters, what do you get? Why don't you take issue with that?













Good gravy. Let it go already. (I never thought I'd say that about a Walmart story.)